PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject:     
continuation of my commentary to Judy's words

Judy wrote:

I, independant of all of you, found his message and his music an incredible tale of yearning and truth, one that pushed him to strive for nothing less than perfection.


1. tries to assert she is not a sheep and conformist when it is abundantly apparent she is. lol that is laughable

2. if the singing Josiah has done lately is perfection, allow my to purchase you some q tips for you to clean out your ears or pull your lovely blond wigs out of the way...your pics on weebly look marrrrrrrvelous, darrrlin..why is Constantine Maroulis not slapping his bolognie for you..maybe you need more rouge..grin and a face transplant.



Judy wrote:
Fascinated I followed this young man's story and I believed so strongly in him that I invested not only time, but a hell of a lot of money in him.


of which he got a big $20 for two concerts you attended and some of that the venue took..if you wanted your wealth to benifit him, you should have just sent him he money..that money you invested "in him" was not for him..it was for you trying recapture your lost youth and gloat on his page before and after about how special you all were. $20 fucking dollars and maybe $15 for the songs and you got something for it the $35 bucks you spent that helped him.

Did you ever stop to think your "hell of a lot of money you invested in him" went to Mohammed's hotel and the struggling airlines got the rest the other thousand upon thousands of dollars..you and the other BNB spent in your feeding frenzy in dallas. Oh and let's not forget our greedy gas stations..yeah, they really need your money, bnbitches.

Mohammad (and his brothers) will weep when he hears you will not be putting his 5 daughters through college as you stalk Josiah across the continent..maybe his chain of hotels will close even,...and there goes the airlines in the toilet for lack of revenue as bnbs drop like flies for shame Judy. Doing that to our airlines and mohammed's "by the roadside" chain of cheap hotels.

But on the bright side, look at the fabulous fucking fortune jack Daniels and Jim beam made...and will continue to make., so it is a good thing for them..investing in American companies (they are American are they not..if not, switch to American booze) they made so much money off the "true fans' asses and Josiah himself for that matter, they were able to save the plant and the workers are lining up to kiss your ugly old wrinkly butt for saving their jobs --you and the other drunk old babes. I think the stock went up dramatically. Yay, you guys saved the plant with your guzzling especially the bnb who I leave unnamed as she is not one of my enemies at least publicly..if she is privately, I hope someone will forward her letters to me.


Judy wrote:
The more time I invested the more genuine I found my pay back to be.


do you fail to understand all stuff happening now to you--this is payback and karma for the things you did. payback is a bitch but couldn't happen to a more worthy person..the two worst on there are getting it the hardest I notice..Judy and doc prego..Debra Hot Not could use a little more though IMO

Judy wrote:
, but I also found an incredible alliance with a vast array of fans.


trust me on this, if you drop your allegiance to Josiah, these fans will not stick around you for long

oh and did you ever stop to think every-time you all go to your annual reunions and stalk him to concerts, people will be laughing hard behind your backs now..a worster might even bitch slap the stupid out of you. Now that alone would be worth the price of a ticket, I might even be willing to shell out some cash to help out ol Mohammad to see that

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject:     
Judy wrote:
Josiah Leming....I , with so many others, including the cruel but devoted vftw, believed in your talent


VFTW may believe in him having some talent, but they care nothing about him personally in their actions for if they did,. they would not ruin all his fan clubs, drive away his fans, and hurt his mom by adding this to her burdens. Yes, Judy, may have been wrong to run to his mom for help certainly and burden her, but so were worsters for starting the whole thing and never letting it drop..their fun takes precedence over any effects that fall over unto Josiah and Sharon.

It is easy for them to say and tell him, his fans are dispensable, but VFTW does not alone make up a mountain of fans when they lose them faster than he can gain them..if it was money he wanted, he aligned himself with the wrong fans, but he made his choice so let him go back to Morristown proudly wearing his VFTW t-shirt. Lots of his fans are youngsters and I am sure parents want their kids aligning and emulating his fans on VFTW (unless they hope to have a career as don rickles)

With fans like those and definitely you guys --the fraus--who equally lost him fans well between all you guys and himself,, he doesn't need enemies. Sad how Judy sucks up to them as she fears them despite her disdain for them. Now you have worsters entering into the "true" fans, "best" fans, "real fans" thing by saying they are the real fans. What is this need to be so special to him...

All are totally, ignoring Josiah's words that he hates seeing some of his fans treat other fans badly and that he loves them all..if he still loves his fans after all this and surely he and his mom have discussions on it, , he is far more than I could be in the same situation.

Plus he never berates the worsters for dissing his fans only the babes,,he knows they are wet for him and will take anything he says and come back the next day to kiss his ass and thank him for the privilege of puckering up. if they can't ride him like the gf they are jealous of, they will settle for kissing his butt.

I do consider myself a fan of his music currently, but not his character/personality/habits or most of his fans except in some cases and for some parts of his personality, but not across the board like his insanely, obsessive fans who baby him or the ones who don't but lose him fans and degenerate where he will get his bread and butter from. From Judy alone he will lose $100 in the coming year..enough to buy a nice supply of alcohol and plenty of pizza. You just lost his meal ticket..and others before her. But Josiah knows pissed or not, we will buy his music.the concert remains to be seen. Many told me privately they won't go anymore.

He is lucky he has talent that may still ride him through to his dreams despite his "fans" in all corners.

Maybe he does enjoy the bashing of the fraus..he can't directly says to their face how he disdains them sometimes and their crazy shit, so maybe he is having an attitude like mine now with "the enemy of my enemies are my friends"

Who knows--they think he likes them more cause of how they are and the concert and all, but if he did, he would not have posted on VFTW and not his page, would have spoken up to fight for his babies and come to their aid like Sharon tried to, , and not said to Judy to leave...when are you people gonna get it? You are the last things on his mind and so is your humiliation and pain at what VFTW is doing. Iif this statement was not true, he would have said something and not frequented that site after he saw them hirting his fans. He has no guts or something, Quick, doc prego, hunt him up a set.

If I had the attitude that I would give it all up and go back to poverty to be true to who I was, I would not think twice about standing up and trying to end the hatred and the pain his fans are enduring and inflicting..the fact that he doesn't said a lot to me before and it does now

I will tell you this, if it was the bnbs knocking the worsters and making them cry and angry and hurt, I believe Josiah would say something to the babes to express his displeasure and in strong terms too as he has before.He would stand up for them, the worsters, , I do believe and this tells me either he is afraid of the worsters and not the bnbs or he likes the worsters better.

One needs to ask themselves why this is so and if this is cause to continue to support him..as someone said "we had your back and thought you'd have ours" well, he didn't and eh doesn't..how does that make you feel, myspacers and bnbs. It doesn't matter because you butt lickers will go back to more and continue to praise him to the moon and back or should I use the words of poster Shelly? "to the heavens and back"

But it doesn't matter does it, he could spit in your faces and you all would come back begging for more cause you have no dignity and self respect. People who are fine with "their kids" smoking, drinking, drinking and driving, treating people like shit, being rude, hating the people who helped make him a star, being two faced to reporters, lying and so forth. certainly are gonna have no problems when their kids kick them and spit in their face..now will they..that is what permissive parents get for their permissiveness.

If you really respected yourself, Judy, you would leave and not just keep saying it. If he truly cares, he will come after like he did Donna, If he doesn't., you are better off. Spend that time and money on someone who is needy instead of Josiah and your trying to have fun, as the world is full of such people desperate for the help you could give them with your free time and your wealth

Even though I am anger with you now Judy, a part of me is really sad for you that you are being attacked and thinks you, like all of us, have something to offer others..your friends say you are funny..maybe you could volunteer in an old folks home or children's hospital and lighten the burdens and cheer up people..this would be a far better use of your time and money...

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject:     
continuation of my commentary to Judy's words

Judy wrote:

I, independant of all of you, found his message and his music an incredible tale of yearning and truth, one that pushed him to strive for nothing less than perfection.


1. tries to assert she is not a sheep and conformist when it is abundantly apparent she is. lol that is laughable

2. if the singing Josiah has done lately is perfection, allow my to purchase you some q tips for you to clean out your ears or pull your lovely blond wigs out of the way...your pics on weebly look marrrrrrrvelous, darrrlin..why is Constantine Maroulis not slapping his bolognie for you..maybe you need more rouge..grin and a face transplant.



Judy wrote:
Fascinated I followed this young man's story and I believed so strongly in him that I invested not only time, but a hell of a lot of money in him.


of which he got a big $20 for two concerts you attended and some of that the venue took..if you wanted your wealth to benifit him, you should have just sent him he money..that money you invested "in him" was not for him..it was for you trying recapture your lost youth and gloat on his page before and after about how special you all were. $20 fucking dollars and maybe $15 for the songs and you got something for it the $35 bucks you spent that helped him.

Did you ever stop to think your "hell of a lot of money you invested in him" went to Mohammed's hotel and the struggling airlines got the rest the other thousand upon thousands of dollars..you and the other BNB spent in your feeding frenzy in dallas. Oh and let's not forget our greedy gas stations..yeah, they really need your money, bnbitches.

Mohammad (and his brothers) will weep when he hears you will not be putting his 5 daughters through college as you stalk Josiah across the continent..maybe his chain of hotels will close even,...and there goes the airlines in the toilet for lack of revenue as bnbs drop like flies for shame Judy. Doing that to our airlines and mohammed's "by the roadside" chain of cheap hotels.

But on the bright side, look at the fabulous fucking fortune jack Daniels and Jim beam made...and will continue to make., so it is a good thing for them..investing in American companies (they are American are they not..if not, switch to American booze) they made so much money off the "true fans' asses and Josiah himself for that matter, they were able to save the plant and the workers are lining up to kiss your ugly old wrinkly butt for saving their jobs --you and the other drunk old babes. I think the stock went up dramatically. Yay, you guys saved the plant with your guzzling especially the bnb who I leave unnamed as she is not one of my enemies at least publicly..if she is privately, I hope someone will forward her letters to me.


Judy wrote:
The more time I invested the more genuine I found my pay back to be.


do you fail to understand all stuff happening now to you--this is payback and karma for the things you did. payback is a bitch but couldn't happen to a more worthy person..the two worst on there are getting it the hardest I notice..Judy and doc prego..Debra Hot Not could use a little more though IMO

Judy wrote:
, but I also found an incredible alliance with a vast array of fans.


trust me on this, if you drop your allegiance to Josiah, these fans will not stick around you for long

oh and did you ever stop to think every-time you all go to your annual reunions and stalk him to concerts, people will be laughing hard behind your backs now..a worster might even bitch slap the stupid out of you. Now that alone would be worth the price of a ticket, I might even be willing to shell out some cash to help out ol Mohammad to see that

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject:     
Judy wrote:
Josiah Leming....I , with so many others, including the cruel but devoted vftw, believed in your talent


VFTW may believe in him having some talent, but they care nothing about him personally in their actions for if they did,. they would not ruin all his fan clubs, drive away his fans, and hurt his mom by adding this to her burdens. Yes, Judy, may have been wrong to run to his mom for help certainly and burden her, but so were worsters for starting the whole thing and never letting it drop..their fun takes precedence over any effects that fall over unto Josiah and Sharon.

It is easy for them to say and tell him, his fans are dispensable, but VFTW does not alone make up a mountain of fans when they lose them faster than he can gain them..if it was money he wanted, he aligned himself with the wrong fans, but he made his choice so let him go back to Morristown proudly wearing his VFTW t-shirt. Lots of his fans are youngsters and I am sure parents want their kids aligning and emulating his fans on VFTW (unless they hope to have a career as don rickles)

With fans like those and definitely you guys --the fraus--who equally lost him fans well between all you guys and himself,, he doesn't need enemies. Sad how Judy sucks up to them as she fears them despite her disdain for them. Now you have worsters entering into the "true" fans, "best" fans, "real fans" thing by saying they are the real fans. What is this need to be so special to him...

All are totally, ignoring Josiah's words that he hates seeing some of his fans treat other fans badly and that he loves them all..if he still loves his fans after all this and surely he and his mom have discussions on it, , he is far more than I could be in the same situation.

Plus he never berates the worsters for dissing his fans only the babes,,he knows they are wet for him and will take anything he says and come back the next day to kiss his ass and thank him for the privilege of puckering up. if they can't ride him like the gf they are jealous of, they will settle for kissing his butt.

I do consider myself a fan of his music currently, but not his character/personality/habits or most of his fans except in some cases and for some parts of his personality, but not across the board like his insanely, obsessive fans who baby him or the ones who don't but lose him fans and degenerate where he will get his bread and butter from. From Judy alone he will lose $100 in the coming year..enough to buy a nice supply of alcohol and plenty of pizza. You just lost his meal ticket..and others before her. But Josiah knows pissed or not, we will buy his music.the concert remains to be seen. Many told me privately they won't go anymore.

He is lucky he has talent that may still ride him through to his dreams despite his "fans" in all corners.

Maybe he does enjoy the bashing of the fraus..he can't directly says to their face how he disdains them sometimes and their crazy shit, so maybe he is having an attitude like mine now with "the enemy of my enemies are my friends"

Who knows--they think he likes them more cause of how they are and the concert and all, but if he did, he would not have posted on VFTW and not his page, would have spoken up to fight for his babies and come to their aid like Sharon tried to, , and not said to Judy to leave...when are you people gonna get it? You are the last things on his mind and so is your humiliation and pain at what VFTW is doing. Iif this statement was not true, he would have said something and not frequented that site after he saw them hirting his fans. He has no guts or something, Quick, doc prego, hunt him up a set.

If I had the attitude that I would give it all up and go back to poverty to be true to who I was, I would not think twice about standing up and trying to end the hatred and the pain his fans are enduring and inflicting..the fact that he doesn't said a lot to me before and it does now

I will tell you this, if it was the bnbs knocking the worsters and making them cry and angry and hurt, I believe Josiah would say something to the babes to express his displeasure and in strong terms too as he has before.He would stand up for them, the worsters, , I do believe and this tells me either he is afraid of the worsters and not the bnbs or he likes the worsters better.

One needs to ask themselves why this is so and if this is cause to continue to support him..as someone said "we had your back and thought you'd have ours" well, he didn't and eh doesn't..how does that make you feel, myspacers and bnbs. It doesn't matter because you butt lickers will go back to more and continue to praise him to the moon and back or should I use the words of poster Shelly? "to the heavens and back"

But it doesn't matter does it, he could spit in your faces and you all would come back begging for more cause you have no dignity and self respect. People who are fine with "their kids" smoking, drinking, drinking and driving, treating people like shit, being rude, hating the people who helped make him a star, being two faced to reporters, lying and so forth. certainly are gonna have no problems when their kids kick them and spit in their face..now will they..that is what permissive parents get for their permissiveness.

If you really respected yourself, Judy, you would leave and not just keep saying it. If he truly cares, he will come after like he did Donna, If he doesn't., you are better off. Spend that time and money on someone who is needy instead of Josiah and your trying to have fun, as the world is full of such people desperate for the help you could give them with your free time and your wealth

Even though I am anger with you now Judy, a part of me is really sad for you that you are being attacked and thinks you, like all of us, have something to offer others..your friends say you are funny..maybe you could volunteer in an old folks home or children's hospital and lighten the burdens and cheer up people..this would be a far better use of your time and money...

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject:     
-Judy wrote:
Name Comment
Judy in S..
Judy in Santa Cruz
just posted on his page this

May 25, 2008 5:22 PM
it's stupid fat frau's like myself (she said it not me but she forgot ugly which is her most notable feature)


.
-Judy wrote:
I didn't come here to fight with anyone nor did I come here to have my respectable name dragged through the mud.


oh really, bitch, is that why for no reason you brought me up in your pathetic letter to smartie calling me "off"..that is the pot calling the kettle black to the max..are you kidding me, you guys are fucking loonies.



and btw way, any apology I made to you has been rescinded after you dragged my name through the mud, insulted me and brought me up for no reason and had the audacity to say you guys were normal..what are you frickin drinkin and smokin to think that. You are so funny, Judy as they said just crazy as hell..you keep us laughing,,yuk yuk




I also rescind any apology or nice thing I said about any of the bnbitches who do stuff to me..*(those who are not deserving of any bad words like m.ry do not get on my "list": I take people on a case by case basis..not all bnbs are bad just like all worsters are not bad...



I didn't do anything to you personally, Judy, but look for that to change. i was trying to be kind and make some peace and say I regretted making you cry (even though that was a frickin joke apparently) I even cried for your fucking ass feelings..I won't make that mistake mistake again..I reach out to you and am kind and them and them in return you fuckin insult and humiliate me and tell lies..you f-ing she/he, but now that I know how you guys talk about me, and I am sure much worst in private, I know you are gonna get yours in life..if not this one, the next one



I now see that your insides are as rotting as your outsides. Rich, huh..well, maybe that is why you so adept at putting others down and manipulation and so skilled at drinking cause you are fucking bored house frau. Used to being entitled and that is why she thought she was better than the thousands of fans..like cream rising to the top, but spoiled cream is just thrown to the side of the gutter when one sees its true nature. That is Judy..spoiled cream rising to the top to sicken people and be puked out.


What I did earlier that faceless tard mentioned, reaching out to others who wronged you or who you felt you wronged is is not sucking up, it is being the better person but now after what you all said, I am putting that person in storage for now and woe to you. (oh damn I just said the meanest thing and decided to go back and erase it to hurt you less though you don't deserve that kindness)


i guess I don't have a worster in me as far as that goes..though I have been told I would be a good one by someone who got to know my meaner side and smart aleck attitude and put downs.(and btw to that person who know who she is, I did not block you on here unless you were posting under a different name/email ..noone can see the forum currently), but though I have a bit of worster in me to be sure, I do hold back some for compassion's sake

But I never, ever, ever wanted to be part of your reindeer games..never...you guys were so ridiculous with your cussing parties, deep discussion on alcohol of which you, ms drunk as a skunk, really stood out as a superstar with the posting of your intense knowledge on alcohol..wow did your parents own distilleries and get their wealth bootlegging under the boardwalk they own. They must have.(

..it was bizarre, the only thing of interest ever discussed on his page was the philosophical discussion and reading your posts, oh mighty brainiac, was like watching a PhD discuss philosophy with a 2 year old...

(Josiah) so what do you think of quantum physics Judy...

(brainiac Judy) goo goo gaga...

(Josiah) oh really and Einstein theory of relativity..

(brainiac Judy) I need a diady change...and furthermore, speaking of crap, I think birdies pooped on daddy's Mercedes last time we went to the beach..did Einstein mention what goes down, often comes down right on daddy's car, Joey?


oh how fascinating are your deep insights Judi your puzzle piece must be one of those reaaaaaalllly big ones that they use in preschool...and by big I don't mean more brainy....lol

Who wants to be part of reindeer games with people who approve of everything Josiah says and does and follows group rules like in high school-- are you kidding me? I ran from your herd...noone rejected me..I rejected them as soon as I figured them out..and happily settled here all by myself where I fit in...often alone and happy till haters attack.

I was friendly to all until karen came here with her lists and broom seeking to clean someone else house as she was a fanatic about everyone being like her..yikes a scary thought if there ever was one. Dot pointed out her uppity behavior and I finished her off. In her anger she lied about what happened on the phione conversation we had and said god knows what lies, doc prego posted some stuff so hateful dot commented and she deleted it before I saw it, and then got all her lemings to delete me even my friends such as the backstabbing Amberger and Wes who was the only one I felt bad about for some reason. Just goes to show how they follow the leader.


Fuck you all. If I posted all half the stuff I wrote about you after you said that to smartie and got it posted, you would all be crying..suffice it to say, you and karen crossed my boundaries and the gloves are off. Trust me on that, I can keep up in VFTW style if wronged and time will tell if I chose to or not. You crossed the wrong person. I am persistent and smarter than you will ever know and I don't forget people who treat me badly and piss me off..

I think ALL of the above.

I received this via MySpace - the stalkers choice when you're trying to make friends with everyone.....

From: karen

myspace.com/karentmd

Date: 21 May 2008, 04:15 PM


Subject: Hi there!

Body:
Surprised I'm sending you a message, probably not. I know this might end up posted on VFTW or that other weebly site, I've considered that and still decided I would message you. Now I'm not trying to befriend you so you be nice to me...I know you are smarter than that (after all you are "smartie" aren't you?) if anything this will play against me in every possible way and yet I'm still writing to you. So basically I don't really know why I'm doing it but I am. I guess just to say you are right, my posts were a little over the top in the beggining and I did tone them down, but as much as I hate to say this, I toned them down because of Jane and not VFTW, I knew all along I would end up being publicly ridiculed by you guys, but I did have it coming by exposing myself the way I did. Don't get me wrong, I still believe Jane although incredibly smart, but terribly psychotic woman, whom I've learned to fear (go ahead Jane, laugh your ass off) noticing her disturbed mental condition didn't take me that long. Anyway it was her, during our discussions is that she made me realize how I was coming across so I have toned it down since.
I will not deny I'm a Josiahtard if really enjoying and supporting someone you believe in is fantarding, I guess if there was a similar VFTW for cars I'd be making fun of you for being a car enthusiast. (no offense)
I don't think I have anything left to say, I'd add you as a "friend" (I know, I know you're thinking WTF?? what makes you think I want to be your friend?) if I were sure you wouldn't steal pictures first of my children and second of some of my friends who are really hurt by all this. Just so you can know your enemy, or rather the object of your amusement.
Anyway, it's all good.

I shall translate that for you:

Please allow me to justify my extreme behaviour as I try to capture my lost youth after popping out two kids I now regret having.




I don't think so. Freak.

hi Josiah,

I really love the song people diving so much and was just looking over the lyrics and they are very full of passion as are you.

Just wonderful lyrics and music and love how you sing it..one of my several favorites,

Wanted to let people know I posted the lyrics as best as I could decipher them to at least three more Josiah songs (and some of thee other songs he has sung) today over at the fan site

http://josiahlemingfans.forumsland.com/

(more on changes there below)

The lyrics I posted are to the songs not listed anywhere yet as far as lyrics are people diving, social insecurity, and deconstructing.

I am going to be a witness tomorrow at trial at the person who nearly killed me a while back in the horrible car wreck..he was driving with no licence and just missed his jury trial and 4 court appearances. I hope they throw the book at him for all his negligence and irresponsibility.

I remember how hard it was driving the 7 hours to see you in Indiana with a broken back and neck and healing lacerated internal injuries and sprains that still hurt and how disappointing it was to not get to see the concert and how I was in too much pain to drive back home and had to stay in sweetwater overnight and how exciting it was to meet you and how much you smiled :) Meeting you helped soften the blow of not getting a concert ticket..I tried so hard to get one but..

Hope you read my folder I gave you then..and liked the song I did for you..I never did get the autographs for others you promised you would send..if you see this, maybe you could send them..but if you can't, it is ok

Good luck and hope everything goes so well for you and also for your mom.


Well, if anyone wants to get the lyrics, sign in and look in the middle section in the songs folder...each is listed under its title. Enjoy!

http://josiahlemingfans.forumsland.com/


See how desperate she is for anyone, ANYONE AT ALL, to join up and chat with her? She should hang out here and share her long, meandering thoughts with us all. Afterall, she loves a captive audience whom she can berate!

I have become completely obsessed with Josiah and his story, his inspired and genius songwriting ability and his depth and maturity as a lyricist. I love his high voice the best..just love it and his mad piano skills. He is a cutie and seems like a sweet-heart with a good character. His mom has every right to be very proud of him as she stated she was.

I love listening to his music and do it frequently every day..each time I learn the words to a song that he has not listed the lyrics to, I am reblown away. Josiah, you are loved, respected, and appreciated and God is blessing you despite what happened on idol..when you were lonely on the road, God had your back and I believe you will meet your goal of helping people. One of your songs I just deciphered pretty well moved me to tears and made me want to live and appreciate my life more and improve it...I guess it motivated me so you have already helped this one person and many more I think.

I would love to see some songs about the situations going on in the world such as politically etc..I really liked John Mayer waiting on the world to change..your verses would be deep and broad I believe and you could give voice to what many feel and maybe spur us to try harder to change things or at least make us think and I hope you will give us some songs along this vein

Your fan in for the long hall

Jane

PS--please come to Columbus or at least Ohio for a concert and if you come, come outside afterwards like the idols do and greet all your fans..that would be awesome.


Doesn't Jane sound HOTTTTT? Don't you LOVE her? I do.