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Jane's having a tantrum part four 05/26/2008

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject:
continuation of my commentary to Judy's words

Judy wrote:

I, independant of all of you, found his message and his music an incredible tale of yearning and truth, one that pushed him to strive for nothing less than perfection.

1. tries to assert she is not a sheep and conformist when it is abundantly apparent she is. lol that is laughable

2. if the singing Josiah has done lately is perfection, allow my to purchase you some q tips for you to clean out your ears or pull your lovely blond wigs out of the way...your pics on weebly look marrrrrrrvelous, darrrlin..why is Constantine Maroulis not slapping his bolognie for you..maybe you need more rouge..grin and a face transplant.

Judy wrote:
Fascinated I followed this young man's story and I believed so strongly in him that I invested not only time, but a hell of a lot of money in him.

of which he got a big $20 for two concerts you attended and some of that the venue took..if you wanted your wealth to benifit him, you should have just sent him he money..that money you invested "in him" was not for him..it was for you trying recapture your lost youth and gloat on his page before and after about how special you all were. $20 fucking dollars and maybe $15 for the songs and you got something for it the $35 bucks you spent that helped him.

Did you ever stop to think your "hell of a lot of money you invested in him" went to Mohammed's hotel and the struggling airlines got the rest the other thousand upon thousands of dollars..you and the other BNB spent in your feeding frenzy in dallas. Oh and let's not forget our greedy gas stations..yeah, they really need your money, bnbitches.

Mohammad (and his brothers) will weep when he hears you will not be putting his 5 daughters through college as you stalk Josiah across the continent..maybe his chain of hotels will close even,...and there goes the airlines in the toilet for lack of revenue as bnbs drop like flies for shame Judy. Doing that to our airlines and mohammed's "by the roadside" chain of cheap hotels.

But on the bright side, look at the fabulous fucking fortune jack Daniels and Jim beam made...and will continue to make., so it is a good thing for them..investing in American companies (they are American are they not..if not, switch to American booze) they made so much money off the "true fans' asses and Josiah himself for that matter, they were able to save the plant and the workers are lining up to kiss your ugly old wrinkly butt for saving their jobs --you and the other drunk old babes. I think the stock went up dramatically. Yay, you guys saved the plant with your guzzling especially the bnb who I leave unnamed as she is not one of my enemies at least publicly..if she is privately, I hope someone will forward her letters to me.

Judy wrote:
The more time I invested the more genuine I found my pay back to be.

do you fail to understand all stuff happening now to you--this is payback and karma for the things you did. payback is a bitch but couldn't happen to a more worthy person..the two worst on there are getting it the hardest I notice..Judy and doc prego..Debra Hot Not could use a little more though IMO

Judy wrote:
, but I also found an incredible alliance with a vast array of fans.

trust me on this, if you drop your allegiance to Josiah, these fans will not stick around you for long

oh and did you ever stop to think every-time you all go to your annual reunions and stalk him to concerts, people will be laughing hard behind your backs now..a worster might even bitch slap the stupid out of you. Now that alone would be worth the price of a ticket, I might even be willing to shell out some cash to help out ol Mohammad to see that

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject:
Judy wrote:
Josiah Leming....I , with so many others, including the cruel but devoted vftw, believed in your talent

VFTW may believe in him having some talent, but they care nothing about him personally in their actions for if they did,. they would not ruin all his fan clubs, drive away his fans, and hurt his mom by adding this to her burdens. Yes, Judy, may have been wrong to run to his mom for help certainly and burden her, but so were worsters for starting the whole thing and never letting it drop..their fun takes precedence over any effects that fall over unto Josiah and Sharon.

It is easy for them to say and tell him, his fans are dispensable, but VFTW does not alone make up a mountain of fans when they lose them faster than he can gain them..if it was money he wanted, he aligned himself with the wrong fans, but he made his choice so let him go back to Morristown proudly wearing his VFTW t-shirt. Lots of his fans are youngsters and I am sure parents want their kids aligning and emulating his fans on VFTW (unless they hope to have a career as don rickles)

With fans like those and definitely you guys --the fraus--who equally lost him fans well between all you guys and himself,, he doesn't need enemies. Sad how Judy sucks up to them as she fears them despite her disdain for them. Now you have worsters entering into the "true" fans, "best" fans, "real fans" thing by saying they are the real fans. What is this need to be so special to him...

All are totally, ignoring Josiah's words that he hates seeing some of his fans treat other fans badly and that he loves them all..if he still loves his fans after all this and surely he and his mom have discussions on it, , he is far more than I could be in the same situation.

Plus he never berates the worsters for dissing his fans only the babes,,he knows they are wet for him and will take anything he says and come back the next day to kiss his ass and thank him for the privilege of puckering up. if they can't ride him like the gf they are jealous of, they will settle for kissing his butt.

I do consider myself a fan of his music currently, but not his character/personality/habits or most of his fans except in some cases and for some parts of his personality, but not across the board like his insanely, obsessive fans who baby him or the ones who don't but lose him fans and degenerate where he will get his bread and butter from. From Judy alone he will lose $100 in the coming year..enough to buy a nice supply of alcohol and plenty of pizza. You just lost his meal ticket..and others before her. But Josiah knows pissed or not, we will buy his music.the concert remains to be seen. Many told me privately they won't go anymore.

He is lucky he has talent that may still ride him through to his dreams despite his "fans" in all corners.

Maybe he does enjoy the bashing of the fraus..he can't directly says to their face how he disdains them sometimes and their crazy shit, so maybe he is having an attitude like mine now with "the enemy of my enemies are my friends"

Who knows--they think he likes them more cause of how they are and the concert and all, but if he did, he would not have posted on VFTW and not his page, would have spoken up to fight for his babies and come to their aid like Sharon tried to, , and not said to Judy to leave...when are you people gonna get it? You are the last things on his mind and so is your humiliation and pain at what VFTW is doing. Iif this statement was not true, he would have said something and not frequented that site after he saw them hirting his fans. He has no guts or something, Quick, doc prego, hunt him up a set.

If I had the attitude that I would give it all up and go back to poverty to be true to who I was, I would not think twice about standing up and trying to end the hatred and the pain his fans are enduring and inflicting..the fact that he doesn't said a lot to me before and it does now

I will tell you this, if it was the bnbs knocking the worsters and making them cry and angry and hurt, I believe Josiah would say something to the babes to express his displeasure and in strong terms too as he has before.He would stand up for them, the worsters, , I do believe and this tells me either he is afraid of the worsters and not the bnbs or he likes the worsters better.

One needs to ask themselves why this is so and if this is cause to continue to support him..as someone said "we had your back and thought you'd have ours" well, he didn't and eh doesn't..how does that make you feel, myspacers and bnbs. It doesn't matter because you butt lickers will go back to more and continue to praise him to the moon and back or should I use the words of poster Shelly? "to the heavens and back"

But it doesn't matter does it, he could spit in your faces and you all would come back begging for more cause you have no dignity and self respect. People who are fine with "their kids" smoking, drinking, drinking and driving, treating people like shit, being rude, hating the people who helped make him a star, being two faced to reporters, lying and so forth. certainly are gonna have no problems when their kids kick them and spit in their face..now will they..that is what permissive parents get for their permissiveness.

If you really respected yourself, Judy, you would leave and not just keep saying it. If he truly cares, he will come after like he did Donna, If he doesn't., you are better off. Spend that time and money on someone who is needy instead of Josiah and your trying to have fun, as the world is full of such people desperate for the help you could give them with your free time and your wealth

Even though I am anger with you now Judy, a part of me is really sad for you that you are being attacked and thinks you, like all of us, have something to offer others..your friends say you are funny..maybe you could volunteer in an old folks home or children's hospital and lighten the burdens and cheer up people..this would be a far better use of your time and money...

Jane's having a tantrum part three 05/26/2008

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Jane's having a tantrum part two 05/26/2008

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject:
-Judy wrote:
Name Comment
Judy in S..
Judy in Santa Cruz
just posted on his page this

May 25, 2008 5:22 PM
it's stupid fat frau's like myself (she said it not me but she forgot ugly which is her most notable feature)

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-Judy wrote:
I didn't come here to fight with anyone nor did I come here to have my respectable name dragged through the mud.

oh really, bitch, is that why for no reason you brought me up in your pathetic letter to smartie calling me "off"..that is the pot calling the kettle black to the max..are you kidding me, you guys are fucking loonies.

and btw way, any apology I made to you has been rescinded after you dragged my name through the mud, insulted me and brought me up for no reason and had the audacity to say you guys were normal..what are you frickin drinkin and smokin to think that. You are so funny, Judy as they said just crazy as hell..you keep us laughing,,yuk yuk

I also rescind any apology or nice thing I said about any of the bnbitches who do stuff to me..*(those who are not deserving of any bad words like m.ry do not get on my "list": I take people on a case by case basis..not all bnbs are bad just like all worsters are not bad...

I didn't do anything to you personally, Judy, but look for that to change. i was trying to be kind and make some peace and say I regretted making you cry (even though that was a frickin joke apparently) I even cried for your fucking ass feelings..I won't make that mistake mistake again..I reach out to you and am kind and them and them in return you fuckin insult and humiliate me and tell lies..you f-ing she/he, but now that I know how you guys talk about me, and I am sure much worst in private, I know you are gonna get yours in life..if not this one, the next one

I now see that your insides are as rotting as your outsides. Rich, huh..well, maybe that is why you so adept at putting others down and manipulation and so skilled at drinking cause you are fucking bored house frau. Used to being entitled and that is why she thought she was better than the thousands of fans..like cream rising to the top, but spoiled cream is just thrown to the side of the gutter when one sees its true nature. That is Judy..spoiled cream rising to the top to sicken people and be puked out.

What I did earlier that faceless tard mentioned, reaching out to others who wronged you or who you felt you wronged is is not sucking up, it is being the better person but now after what you all said, I am putting that person in storage for now and woe to you. (oh damn I just said the meanest thing and decided to go back and erase it to hurt you less though you don't deserve that kindness)

i guess I don't have a worster in me as far as that goes..though I have been told I would be a good one by someone who got to know my meaner side and smart aleck attitude and put downs.(and btw to that person who know who she is, I did not block you on here unless you were posting under a different name/email ..noone can see the forum currently), but though I have a bit of worster in me to be sure, I do hold back some for compassion's sake

But I never, ever, ever wanted to be part of your reindeer games..never...you guys were so ridiculous with your cussing parties, deep discussion on alcohol of which you, ms drunk as a skunk, really stood out as a superstar with the posting of your intense knowledge on alcohol..wow did your parents own distilleries and get their wealth bootlegging under the boardwalk they own. They must have.(

..it was bizarre, the only thing of interest ever discussed on his page was the philosophical discussion and reading your posts, oh mighty brainiac, was like watching a PhD discuss philosophy with a 2 year old...

(Josiah) so what do you think of quantum physics Judy...

(brainiac Judy) goo goo gaga...

(Josiah) oh really and Einstein theory of relativity..

(brainiac Judy) I need a diady change...and furthermore, speaking of crap, I think birdies pooped on daddy's Mercedes last time we went to the beach..did Einstein mention what goes down, often comes down right on daddy's car, Joey?

oh how fascinating are your deep insights Judi your puzzle piece must be one of those reaaaaaalllly big ones that they use in preschool...and by big I don't mean more brainy....lol

Who wants to be part of reindeer games with people who approve of everything Josiah says and does and follows group rules like in high school-- are you kidding me? I ran from your herd...noone rejected me..I rejected them as soon as I figured them out..and happily settled here all by myself where I fit in...often alone and happy till haters attack.

I was friendly to all until karen came here with her lists and broom seeking to clean someone else house as she was a fanatic about everyone being like her..yikes a scary thought if there ever was one. Dot pointed out her uppity behavior and I finished her off. In her anger she lied about what happened on the phione conversation we had and said god knows what lies, doc prego posted some stuff so hateful dot commented and she deleted it before I saw it, and then got all her lemings to delete me even my friends such as the backstabbing Amberger and Wes who was the only one I felt bad about for some reason. Just goes to show how they follow the leader.

Fuck you all. If I posted all half the stuff I wrote about you after you said that to smartie and got it posted, you would all be crying..suffice it to say, you and karen crossed my boundaries and the gloves are off. Trust me on that, I can keep up in VFTW style if wronged and time will tell if I chose to or not. You crossed the wrong person. I am persistent and smarter than you will ever know and I don't forget people who treat me badly and piss me off..

Jane's having a tantrum! 05/26/2008

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:49 pm

Post subject: Judy in Santa cruz and other bnbs
what judy said yesterday

Name Comment
Judy in S..
Judy in Santa Cruz
just posted on his page this

May 25, 2008 5:22 PM
Wow...I am so amazed at the upsurd shit that goes on here at JL's page. Why does it seem like we're all fighting over this person that we all seem to admire? Whether it's stupid fat frau's like myself or mean spirited guy men like Dave Della Terza and his band of deceitful band of theives at vftw. I didn't come here to fight with anyone nor did I come here to have my respectable name dragged through the mud. I came here b/c one night on American Idol, I witnessed a very compelling story told by a talented young visionary. I, independant of all of you, found his message and his music an incredible tale of yearning and truth, one that pushed him to strive for nothing less than perfection. Fascinated I followed this young man's story and I believed so strongly in him that I invested not only time, but a hell of a lot of money in him.
The more time I invested the more geniune I found my pay back to be. I not only discovered what I deemed, with my many years experience, to be a diamond in the rough, but I also found an incredible alliance with a vast array of fans. Some amazingly young, falling in love with the magic this boy communicated with powerful lyrics. Some much older, but still impressed with not only what this young man had to say, but with the passion and drive of his deliverance.
Josiah Leming....I , with so many others, including the cruel but devoted vftw, believed in your talent
and in your word, we were here as a group to cheer you on and witness your brillant passage into stardom.
Along the way, I met some wonderful people. We connected because of you and worked together with one purpose in mind....to help you prosper in your journey. I personally fought like hell against those that came to your myspace to put you down, to stomp on your dream....you know who you are. What I didn't expect was the vile attacks my friends and I would receive for standing our ground in your defense, for following your rise to fame. I have

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject:
she also said this on his page

May 25, 2008 9:24 PM
PART TWO of my jane like message: (I have in the past written in two part posts there)

I have been made to feel ashamed for my allegience to you and that is so not right. But I am powerless. So I will take my friends and my allegience and my money and I will go away as vftw, you and Clinton have asked....good luck to you in all you do JL....it was fun....but I must move on to molest someone else...
Judy in Santa Cruz

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Judy in Santa cruz
this is what Judy said in a personal message to a worster named it's me Dab

this is followed by some comments by me, jane

Quote:
From: whatthehell
To: ItsMeDeb
Subject: Josiah Leming
Date: May 12, 2008 - 3:49pm

Hi Deb,
Ok you guys win, I will quit being of fan of Josiah Lemings music and a daily friend to Sharon. You folks have made your point by humilating me beyond belief. You're right I am too old and ugly to have fun on his page, but I do want you to know that I had become a friend to Sharon. I email her jokes everyday, without fail hoping to make her smile. I was beginning the process of helping another friend of mine Debra Conway get Sharon's writing published. We were in the early stages of organizing "fund raising" opportunities to bring the rarity of her illness to light.
The newspaper article, though wonderful, did scramble what I said about Josiah's lyrics. I didn't say Josiah knows what women want, I said "his lyrics speak to what women have been trying to make man understand for years about women's feelings, Josiah's lyrics express the fact that he gets it. It helps bridge the idea that men are from mars and women from venus. It was meant as he "understands" and apparently shares similar emotions as women but I didn't want to say that last part exactly because I didn't want anyone to call Josiah feminine. Yes, we are a bunch of crazy woman that found friendships through discovering his music, but we are not lecherous old hags lusting after him, at least most of us aren't. We are not "off" like Jane either, but I've learned my lesson, I will leave the Lemings life. In fact I've already started my apology to Sharon for embarassing her family. But if you would, can you please remove my full name and location from the forum page. Tearfully....Judy

my comments begin

So I am "off" and they are sane huh..if Karen is not lusting after him, I don't know who is..

what about Donna saying how pissed she was that Josiah's girlfriend posted on his page and had some rightfully intimate conversation and a special place in his heart and Donna's anger she was being ignored or that Jenna was getting attention instead of her..she viciously downed his girlfriend Jenna saying she how Jenna "rode him over and over like a horse" to get his attention and have some pull with him . wow jealous much?

and then saying to Judy "I can't believe he defended that crack whore lake Lilly over you, Judy. You are his woman---his woman --Judy??? what the fuck??? shocked

bring on the paper bags (ie- Morris-less style) if he has to ride that thing like a horse. whoa Nelly..well she has got the big ass and the sweet smile like old Betsy but she leaves a little to be desired in the sexy department. you know..his woman indeed..news to him I bet.

Josiah decisions..decisions... on the one hand lovely Jenna, 17 years old and the other hand fugley Judy nearing age 50 ...let's me see..this IS a toughie..any guesses who he picks lol then quick wash that other hand...and be extra cautious of that finger as a worsters said "who knows where that thing has been".

...since when is it the behavior of non "lecherous old hags not lusting after him" when they get jealous of his 17 year old girlfriend (Donna), post non stop love letters while neglecting their families (Karen) and get called "his woman" by their friends (Judy)...what the hell kind of conversations are taking place when h-Amber-ger says how they all talk on the phone all the time. Now if that got posted, that might be pe-tty sick and interesting stuff. yucky! Any informants?

And BTW, lake Lilly is worth more than all the BNBitches put together.

She is very intelligent, a nonconformist, unique, funny, interesting, artistic, talented, aesthetic, has common sense, and has good insight, a wry sense of humor..she gets it and you bitches don't. Josiah was right to defend her. If nothing else, Josiah Leming has insight and some guts and is true to himself.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject:
more (naturally)

For Judy had to say the bnbs are sane and not "off" like me, is she fucking kidding?

Look for me to take off the gloves and not hold back anymore and be as kind as I was. You pissed off the wrong person..if you think I do not have a side that can be as vicious as any worsters, then you don't know me..the difference is I react emotionally and am compelled to point out things I see for the good of people but sometimes, I do, though, like most people, react in anger to insults. I am sweet a lot but I can be a bitch as well as the next person.

That is why you are not getting sympathy from me anymore,.Judy witch twin bitch, amber--aka the whopper, Karen (hence forth known as doc prego) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prego doc, your your Dallas outfit was so flattering Smile did you stick some dead people up there? Organs maybe that you took to make some side cash for Josiah concerts or buy rounds of booze for the gang..were you holding them there for when you make a quick side trip from Dallas to Mexico to sell off those dead people organs you jammed up your shirt. hmm.), or are congratulations in order for another kid you will not have sufficient time to spend on and for any others who treated me or will treat me without respect or unkindly.

Unlike, VFTWers I can be reasoned with generally and I do regret mean things I say; however, I know the things they say about me publicly pail in the many horrible things the bnbitches say privately and thus they are getting no more than they deserve. I know you will not be able to resist going under one of your worster names and saying something cruel..you are very predictable..am I the only one who posts under my real name and doesn't go on worster sites ...if I post on worsters I will tell you here that I have. i hope some of your disgruntled friends come forth with evidence of your slander against me.

Joseph Goebeels said "ôIf you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." This is why it is defaming my character and my employment opportunities etc by lying continually about my mental health in public..and these continual lies by worsters and BNBs that I have schizophrenia, multiple personalities and psychosis which I do not have. These are serious mental illnesses very stigmatized to lay on someone who doesn't have them.

If you continue this Karen, I may file a lawsuit, I know where you are at or how to get a subpoena to you..I have been to doctors for many years and seen the top specialists and I have never been diagnosed with any of these mental disorders nor do I met the criteria in the DSM-IV for any of these disorders. So quit fucking lying to get revenge cause Dot and I got the better of you and you got owned.

As stated time and time again, I have severe atypical clinical depression and 3 sleep disorders and had very serious side effects of SSRI antidepressants that made it necessary to discontinue their use. Again these things you are defaming me with are completely untrue and libelous. They are causing harm and I am considering my legal options.

As far as VFTW, I hope they smack you down when you go to their site pretending to be a worster instead of the fat fraus you are. I am learning from the masters how to do it better, but I also have stuff of my own to bring on onto your asses.

Judy may regret that decision to say what she and Karen did if I ever let loose on you people. I don't have the Italian temperament and ties for nothing, I tried to apologize to Karen and that and Judy's apology I posted earlier are now completely retracted. I take back any compliments and I am sorry's I said earlier... once Karen (and Judy) said what they did, it is over I will not treat people kindly anymore who show themselves to be my enemies by things they post in pms and on website associated with VFTW. I am most persistent..when I feel wronged. I don't forget. I obsess.

As far as VFTW (vote for the worst and their various threads and extensions about Josiah fans), although I strongly feel what they are doing is wrong and wonder about people who get joy in making people cry, hurting them and embarrassing them and who are so hurt as to live so far from the golden rule of doing unto others, it is you BNBitches who pissed me off worst.

I must say after reading Judy's pm to Dave that she is responsible for what is to come from me..all the cracks on my mental states, I have endured but when that person so obviously way more "off " than I am or could ever be is gonna say that when I was nice to her, then the gloves are off and as far as VFTW I go with the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Let karma unfold...wrought by my enemies enemy who are quite talented in this regard.
yes, let karma takes place.

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